If you run into a seller who only accepts Moneygram and WU as payment options you will see it is most likely a fraud. When you make a payment via Western Union you need a name, address and country of the receiver. The fraudsters will in many cases tell you that you can hide the “secret number” and only show him a printed proof of payment and he will send out the goods. This supposed “secret number” is only a control number to track the status of the order. It’s called MTCN (money transfer control number) and the receiver can pick up money without it. The best thing to do is if we look at an example. Lets say you are paying a person with this name:
Dr. Patrick Krieger
Arthur Avenue 143
Miami, 32003
USA
Now you think only this person can pick up money you have sent, but in fact your money can be picked by a China guy in Shanghai. Western Union has been created mainly for the reason you could send money if a friend got mugged or somehow run out of money in a remote destination or another country. If your friend is out of money there is a high probability he can also be without a personal ID or other official identification documents. So you don’t need an ID to pick up the money. When you are filling the form of Western Union you can require for the receiver to identify themselves, but then again, it can be picked up without the ID.
I shouldn’t tell you how easy it is to fake an ID in photoshop. With little practice and graphical skills you can create a false official document in an hour or you can order one in underground internet. Templates and scanned official documents can be obtained online you only need to change a picture and type in the desired name. A bank employee will surely not have the knowledge to recognize this fake ID and if by chance he does you can just go to the next WU agent.
Don’t get fooled with the MTCN trick. Thieves often repeat you can hide the Secret MTCN and after you have received your package you will release this number to them so they can pick up funds. MTCN, Money Transfer Control Number is nothing but a CONTROL NUMBER with which you can track the process of your money online. Is your bank still processing your order? Have the funds been picked up? It only is a number to check the status, so the receiver doesn’t need any MTCN to pick up the cash. If someone tries this on you, immediately stop any transaction or deal offer because it is definitely a scam.
If you know the person you are sending your money to, then western union can be the best option to send out money. For example, a family member is in a distant location and lost his ID and is out of money. No, problem you just send your support money via western union and he will be able to pick it up without problems. Also good if you are sending gifts or payments to reputable sellers that you thrust. A very fast option of payment, since the receiver gets his funds only hours after you sent it, anywhere in the world!
September 9th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
Hello! I just left an e-mail describing the series of events occuring since last Wed., 9-3-08, informing me of my e-mail/web acct. being selected in a random drawing as the winner of 5.5 million Great British pounds in a Microsoft Word Intl. Lottery drawing:United Kingdom Div. I guess this infirmation (my e-mail, etc.) was available through my using MSN as part of my installed systems format and programming. My concern is that has my computer and info contained there-in been compromised? Hacked into? Taken over? and is this “lottery winning” real or fraud? What can I do? Where can I report and seek an investigation to find out if it is real and true? Please reply at your earliest convenience as I monitor daily. Thank you, Sincerely, James O.@ jaoriv@q.com
November 7th, 2008 at 7:47 am
Is there any other way we can check our MTCN online if this is true or not? I have a friend that was told to be send a money by his chatmate from distant location, at once she told to get the money in western union. By the time, she come by, the MTCN did not appear as she check it with the western union agent. At this point, is there any other way for us to check the status of MTCN online so we know if it true or not?
November 7th, 2008 at 7:56 am
You can find your order status by going to westernunion.com and clicking on “transfer status”.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I advertised a book i was selling on Facebook, and some guy wanted to buy it (from canada). he wanted to send me 3,500$ for my 100$ book where he would then give me an extra $50 for cashing the check at my bank and then going to western union to send him the rest of the money to his (agent). Through the conversation on e-mail it seemed he wanted nothing to do with the book but gave me all the information necessary for me to send the rest of the money.
Just really confussed and hope you can solve this problem
March 9th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
There are two possibilities. He may send you cash to clean it. Read more about it in money laundering.
Or he’ll send you a fake check that will bounce. While you’re waiting for the check to be cleared he will tell you that in the mean time you should send the “rest” back to him, from your own pocket of course. The check will not be cleared and the scammer just received a few thousand dollars from you.
March 14th, 2009 at 4:22 am
Someone offered to pay me through Western Union. All they asked for was my name, phone number and address. Just by giving him this is there any possible way to get scammed still? I did not give him any banking account numbers, etc
May 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
I looked at this site as it advertised it would tell me who to report to. Local police can’t take case as I transferred money to NY and fraudsters are in Canada. FBI won’t talk to me as the sum is not great enough. It is to me! I have a money gram agent with foto of the one who picked up the money and have a voice recording of my secret shopper agent. WHO can I report them to?
June 18th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Hi I got a mail form a transaction on ebay, I was selling an Item and the buyer asked me to deposit 350 via western Union saying he had deposited the money by paypal. I also recieved a fake email from paypal.
This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer’s account and has been “APPROVED” but will not be credited into your account until the payment MTCN information is sent to us for shipment verification, so as to secure both the buyer and the seller. Below are the relevant information required before your account will be credited: Send MTCN information to us at (paypalaccount@fundnotifications.com) and our customer care service will attend to you. As soon as we receive the MTCN information for security and safety purpose of the buyer and the seller, the money will be credited to your account immediately.
If I stop the negotiations now is there any possible Ill get scammed?
June 22nd, 2009 at 11:53 pm
What do you do when you lose your MTCN number and a transaction went through but cannot be located. We have been trying to locate fund transfered to our Mortgage provider but there is no listing on the date we sent it and without the MTCN number, Western Union have not been helping us much. Please advise.
June 24th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
I would like to know if the following could be a Western Union scam or not. Someone from another country insists in buying me an expensive item I advertized on the internet and wants to pay me via Western Union, nothing else. The person then asks for my full name and address to do the payment and asks me to ship the item within the next 24h. The person insists that she really wants the item for a gift to a church, talks about her autn etc… but it doesn’t sound right.
Something tells me that this is a kind of phishing scheme but I don’t know exactly what kind of a scam it can be. I really don’t know what is going on, but I’m sure this is a scam. Any idea what this is all about?
June 24th, 2009 at 6:14 pm
I just realize my story is similar to that of Devin (see March 14 2009 above). Someone from abroad insists in buying an expensive but very common item (a musical instrument), wants it ship within 24h and says he’s gonna pay via Western Union. Could this be a scam?
July 2nd, 2009 at 12:02 am
Anything involving someone wanting to purchase your item and make payment by Western Union / Money Gram is a scam. Anyone sending you a check for more than the asking price of your item & then wanting you to W/U the balance is a scammer. When they get really instistent with you regarding the Western Union funds, it is a scam. When they want your item ASAP, 9 times out of 10 it’s a scam.
My son places a “For Sale” ad on Craigslist and received a check for $2200.00 with instructions “Oops – sent too much money. Please send the balance back to me by Western Union”. The name of the bank no longer existed. Doing an Internet search, I called the name on the check (it was a business) and I was advised an old, old account number fell into the hands of crooks who printed fake checks with their old banking info.
If you have been swindled out of money/merchandise by these scammers, go to http://www.FBI.gov and there is a link where these growing crimes can be reported.
July 6th, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Never take any checks, money orders, cashiers checks or anything else that appears to be a money in the form of paper! More than 9 times out of ten, you will loose money, merchandise, or both. After taking the negociable funds to the bank, mailing off an item that was purchased with it, or mailing off excess funds, you will get a letter from your banki that the funds were no good! When you sign the back of that check and then deposit it in your bank, you are guaranteeing that the funds are good, and will take the loss, whatever it might be! The scams are changing, but one thing that is not, is the fake ways in which they pay with! Also, if you are buying something, if you are unable to use pay pal or meet the person in person, do not send any funds because you will never see what ever it is that you were hoping to buy! Many of these scams are coming from Nigeria, although I have seen some from Africa, and others as well!
July 16th, 2009 at 4:17 am
well westernunion is now reliable,there is no way some can now pick up money without having the mtcn number,before someone could easily pick up any money without the mtcn number,but westernunion have now come to the terms no mtcn number,no location of where the money is coming,the test quesiton and asnwer and the exact name of the sender the money will not be released to you
August 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Please do not believe anyone who says money cannot be picked up without the MTCN number. I work at store with a Western Union terminal and we pay out money every day to people who have no idea what the MTCN number of their transaction is. All you need to pick up money is the name of sender and your name, address and phone number and ID. If a test question has been included, you don’t even need the ID.
Again, you DO NOT need to know the MTCN number to pick up the money. Anyone telling you they can’t get the money without you telling them this number is LYING!!!
August 17th, 2009 at 10:08 am
when scammers want your money, you need to send $$ first, then they promise to send the merch that you paid for, once they receive the money.then they never send merch, because it never existed.
when its the other way around, they will send you a check that will bounce, but not until after you have sent your items.
what i wonder is if these scenarios have ever linked up one scammer with another? i mean a published or printed news story of how one scammer sends a fake check to another scammer? i would like to read about that
September 17th, 2009 at 4:13 am
i was dealing with someone about renting a house
lots of emails
they told me that they didnt want the money just to show i have sent it
western union office told me only the person i sent the money too can pick it
i asked again and she told me the same thing
so i sent it to a family member then asked the western union lady can i give the person i am renting off the mtcn number she said yes they cannot do anything with that
wooohooo the took my money from another part of the country
can i get my money back
September 17th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
My story is exactly the same with kaz. I didn’t even tell the the scammer who the receiver is. They took the money anyway. They are still investigating.
October 1st, 2009 at 1:59 pm
I recieved two western uion money orders in the mail..I have no idea who they are from or why I hve recieved them I called western union and cold not get ahold of anyone that could help. Anyone know what I should do are these safe to cash.
November 21st, 2009 at 1:37 pm
I responded to an ad in our local newspaper for an online bookkeeper. I got a response that said the bookkeeper position was filled, but they had an opening for a Secret Shopper. I know people who are secret shoppers so I thought it was legitimate. I responded that I was interested. I then got a response that I needed to give my address and hours/days available, my age and phone numbers. Then I was told there was a complaint at a local Western Union about funds not being received and service not good. Shortly after that I received two $875 Money Grams with a simple note to email to a yahoo account that I received the 2 Money Grams and I would get further instructions to cash the money grams and keep $200, going to Western Union and send the remainder to another secret shopper, whose name and address they would give to me. I haven’t responded because I am convinced that this is a scam. Why would someone send me $1750 and they don’t know me?
November 27th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
I arranged a transaction with a seller through the internet for buying an iphone .he gave me all the information i needed to send the money and told me to go to WU ,send the money to a friend of mine (any desired name) but his address and then mail him the receipt from WU so that he sends the package .After i get the package and check that everything is fine i should go change the name with his and he could withdraw the money .is this safe or he’s just a scam ? please answer me asap since i want to do the trade very soon .thank you
November 30th, 2009 at 4:41 am
I’m having the same trouble right now with an eBay seller.
He says he wants money first and then ship item but i told him that only after he provides tracking number i’ll make transfer.
he won’t take it. because he says that after he ships it he won’t have any insurance he’s getting his money… that’s kinda true…
What can i do?
The guy really seems trustworthy ALTOUGH i got scammed before, and the same way with 722$ again with an eBay seller.
I don’t know what to do… Please help!
November 30th, 2009 at 9:28 am
I just had the renting of an apartment almost pulled on me! I made a few phone calls that weren’t expected. More vigilence is required from consumers. I googled UPS, as they were implicated, I called them, and WU and got to the conclusion that it was a scam… Careful!
December 4th, 2009 at 5:57 am
hello,
good day,
i can help you to contact the scammer and they will send you your money back……
contact me at gilliasrobin43@yahoo.com
for more information
tahnks
March 9th, 2010 at 4:17 am
Also, scammers will ALWAYS ALWAYS tell you that their Paypal account has been frozen. They will always give you a lame reason why you have to send them money to them using Western Union.
I know that if you are reading this and you know that you might have fallen for a scam you can call Western Union and cancel it within 24 hours. Do make sure you do that because once the money is collected there is not one thing you can do to ever recover your money.
March 13th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Hi.im.suppose.2.b.sending. Money.via.western.union.so.I.can.rent.this.apartment.but.I.honestly.am.not.sure.what.2.do.they.sound.very.trusting. And.I.have.their.name.phone.address.but.im.starting.2. Worry.reading.all.the. Comments.please.help…
April 20th, 2010 at 7:16 am
IF it involves WESTERN UNION, it is a SCAM 100% of the TIME!
That is all you need to know.
April 24th, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I am so filled with despair; anger; frustration; and all these emotions are hurled towards a man who introduced himself to me as Frank Ban; claiming to be a Western Union employee in Uited Kingdom and trying to assist me to receive funds what I had supposedly win as apart of their Western Union Company promotion award in United KIngdom. I am 22; highly ambitious; however a middle-class young lady attempting to make sumthing of her lfe; as I am now gonna have to do even more whereby I now have to refund over 2,400 plus which has been scammed out of me; and which was loan to me by my totally helpful Grandmother to assist me in receiving this so called award of 750,000.00 they claimed my email had won me out of a list of 80,000 people. When I first received the emails apart of me knew it was a scam, however I informed my mom of it and she asked me to give it a try which I regret so much today I ever did. Thanx to me telling my brother of it and he informed me of the info I needed which fully confirmed my initial suspicions that this was in fact a scam; and he is now 25 and stated that it happened to him at the age of 21, and he was a bit oblivious as I was and my mom about the real harsh effects of these professional scammers online who dont give a damn that they are stealing people’s hard earned money. Here is a few documents I received from them and was so easily conned by: You have a transfer from IMF amount £750,000.00 Email;customeroffice001@btinternet.com Dear Sir/Madam,
There is an issue with the WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER UNITED KINGDOM, the sum of £750,000.00 Pound Sterling’s was credited to file number KTU/9023118308/0324 directed in cash, your email address was tagged the owner.
The INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND (IMF) contacted us for your compensation a couple of hours ago due to your allocated security code.
They said that they choose to send it to an email address instead of a name. We are unable to complete a transfer directed at an email address, so we require some more information in order to complete this transfer.
Your name, Contact address, Country, Phone number, Occupation, Age, Date of birth, Postal code.
In order to resolve this problem, please email via Western Union Solicitors Fund Verification Department: THE MANAGEMENT OF WESTERN UNION MONEY TRANSFER,UNITED KINGDOM HEAD OFFICE.DISPATCHED THIS DAY.
,
Frank Ban Call line: Tel: +44-702-434-6935 YourWestern Union® UK Yours Sincerely.
Send Money Worldwide
Attention :Hannah Isabella George
Thank you for using our bank “WESTERN UNION” for transferring your funds. However, we are here to give you the very best services. As a co-operative institution with a rich history of focusing on customers, “WESTERN UNION” consistently pushes the boundaries of traditional personal banking.
This mail is to notify you that your transfer is in progress or On Hold by us. If your transfer is On Hold, note that it is because some problem along the line enrose. At 100% of the transfer pHere is the recent history of your Transfer Status in the Transfer Menu: Transfer On Hold….
Transfer Current Percentage% : 98%
Done…
Bank Message: Transfer On Hold… “COT” Payment Required……
* You have not yet made the transfer charges (COT) payment for the transfer.
We shall release your transfer as soon as we receive your COT (Cost Of Transfer) payment. Writing you this message is just to update you on the transfer of the funds you have with our bank “WESTERN UNION” and for the sake of your transfer to be successful. We shall be glad to transfer your funds to your account as stated above in the Transfer Status Menu.
You can veiw your transfer slip which had been Attached to this message, and also you will find the COT (Cost Of Transfer) in the attach which will cost you the sum of $300 usd Before the transfer of your funds will be finally completed, and credited into your bank rocess, your funds will reflect in your account because 100% is the full transfer complete process. If anything happens on the way, making the transfer On Hold or Stopped, you will need to act fast by contacting us and doing the necessary thing that was requested from you. account.
IMPORTANTLY: There is no way we can deduct any fee from your funds that is deposited in our custody for transfer to your Account. And also you are advice to call for more information.
Once Again Congratulation. And have a Nice Day.
Yours Sincerely,
Frank Ban.
Call line:+447024346935Western Union®
Send Money Worldwide
Attention :Hannah Isabella George
Thank you for your understanding, you are to go over and make the payment of the Cost Of Transfer charges. Below are the guild lines and information you are to use to send the required funds for your COT.
GUILDLINES:
You are required to send the funds for your COT (Cost Of Transfer) amounting of £200 Pounds via any Western Union Money Transfer Agent in your locality to our Account Officer with the information below;
Account Officer’s Name: Mrs. Rebecca Harrison,
Address: 361 Founders Court Lothbury London EC2R 7HE, United Kingdom
As soon as you send the funds, you are to send to this email address for your payment registration/confirmation the following details;
1: All the payment details which should include;
a) First Name of the sender:
b) Last Name of the sender:
c) Money Transfer Control Number(MTCN):
d) Amount paid:
e) City paid from:
2: The scan copy of the western union payment receipt.
I await your reply soonest along with the funds transfer receipt and details. If you have any question or comments with regards the transfer process, it will be our pleasure to address those issues for you.
Once Again Congratulation. And have a Nice Day.
Yours Sincerely,
Frank Ban.
Call line:+447024346935Western Union®
Send Money Worldwide. Office Hambridge Lane
Newbury Berkshire
RG14 5TU. United Kingdom.
Attn: Hannah Isabella George.
Inland Revenue and the british tax investigation service are Authorised and Regulated by the Financial Services Authority. The Taxation and Revenue Department assesses certain types taxes. A tax is levied on lotteries, raffles, etc. almost everywhere, normally by the payment authority on behalf of the Government.
Good day to you, my office received your mail today, which i want you to be inform that you are require to pay the sum of $1,000 Dollars to this office for your non residental tax leveled on you by BRITISH INLAND REVENUE. You are advice to pay the cost before your transfer can be release to INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND.
I expect you should take to my advice and act accordinly, as i will be expecting you to make the payment of $1,000 Dollars the tax office. You are advise to make the payment to our account officer with the details given below:
1) You are to pay to our acount officer Mrs Mary Morrision via Western Union the sum of $1,000 Dollars with the detail below:
Names: Mrs Mary Morrision
Address: # 67 Hambridge Lane Newbury Berkshire RG14 5TU. United Kingdom.
Amount to Send : $1,000 Dollars.
After Payments must have been made by you, you will then proceed to send us the following information below as regards the very transfer as well as a scanned copy of the transfer slip from Western Union:
Senders First Name.
Senders Last Name.
Sender Address.
MTCN Money Transfer Control Numbers.
As soon as the payment is made do send a scan copy of the payment reciept to this office and one to INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND to update your file in their office and for confimation of payment to the two offices.
Awaiting your payment reciept. Thanks for your understand and co operation.
Extend my greetings to your loved ones.
Tax Department,Inland Revenue.
Regards
Mr. Mathew Jones
Tax Department,Inland Revenue
A very good day to you, we receive a contact from the inland revenue office saying your payment has been confirm by them so they have release your transfer and they send us a copy of your tax receipt and hope them send you a copy too
Note that your transfer has been release and first thing tomorrow morning we will commence with your transfer and in the next 48hours your funds will be in your account.
Lastly understand that we are going to send you a copy of your transfer slip which you are to present to your bank in Bahamas so that you can confirm your funds in your account.
Once again congratulation, and have a nice day.
Best regards,
Frank Ban.
Western Union®
“FROM THE DESK OF THE DIRECTOR
INTERBANK MONETARY COUNCIL
A SUBSIDIARY OF THE UK CLEARING HOUSE
FOR THE URGENT ATTENTION OF ;
BENEFICIARY :
CC: Frank Ban { Account Officer}
Date: 16TH of? April 2010
Re: Expiration Of Insurance Policy
We are writting you to inform you that we have finish prepraring your insurance certificate and we are waiting for your payment before we can release the document to you.
So you are advice to make sure you send this payment payment tomorrow morning because your insurance certificate is ready as soon as we receive your payment the certificate will be send to the Western Union office and a copy will be sent to you immediately.
YOURS TRULY
MRS LARA ADAMS
DIRECTOR
UK CLEARING HOUSE “FROM THE DESK OF THE DIRECTOR
INTERBANK MONETARY COUNCIL
A SUBSIDIARY OF THE UK CLEARING HOUSE
FOR THE URGENT ATTENTION OF ;
My office receive your email regarding the your insurance certificate. I want to make you understand something there is no way your funds can be transfer to you without an insurance certificate because it is very important to your funds most be back up with an insurance certificate.
Note that there is INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND can not do anything about your funds without an insurance certificate, my advice for you is for you to make sure you send this payment for your insurance certificate because if you don’t renew your certificate you will lose your funds.
You should count your self as a lucky person because it is not easy for someone to be a winner from the IMF promotion award so you should be very happy and i can see that the amount you won is a very big amount of money, you want to lose a million dollars just because of 2,400 dollars my friend is your choice do what ever you want to do it is for your own good.
Be inform that your insurance certificate is ready as soon as you send this payment we will provide your with the certificate immediately.
Hope you will read my email and do what the western union office as you to do because they are your transfer officers and sorry, i know that i am not suppose to be telling you all this things because i am not working at the western union office and i am only doing my job as a worker from the insurance company.
Have a nice day.
YOURS TRULY
MRS LARA ADAMS
DIRECTOR
UK CLEARING HOUSE”
I am sooo angry and frustrated and I am prayng that these people who all assisted in carrying out this scam be caught and persecuted to the fullest and harshest extent. Here are the email adresses I have been given to contact:
mathew.jones9@btinternet.com; westernunion111@btinternet.com refundsq@yahoo.co.uk
May 4th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Received this letter today in E-mail, I am curious as how to it benefits the scammer. They list an account MTCN # that says it is active (I checked knowing this is a scam out of curiosity)
Attention Dear Costumer
Your Payment have release today, you can track this information and see
that the payment is there in western union waiting for you,get back to
us before you pick up the money there,
First Senders Name; tonySecond Senders Name; udealor MTCN Number: 4201173426Amount;$5200
As soon as you trick the information give to you Please call us at
+22998563452 for more information,wes_union2010@w.cnDr Kemp Johnson
May 13th, 2010 at 2:29 am
ukandde@aol.com
http://au110133933.trustpass.alibaba.com/
Company Name: M-TRADE AUSTRALIA
Street Address: 2A Kitchener GR
City: Preston
Province/State: VIC
Country/Region: Australia
Zip: 3072
Scammer alert , he is trying to scam users on apple products.
he will offer you payment to be made by western union and in someone elses name. Now western union does not need to see proof to release funds. This scammer wants you to make payment and also send over the scanned document so he can collect funds and then never send products
May 31st, 2010 at 4:07 am
This is what I received on my e-mail. Can it be legit?
Hello,
We wish to inform you that on Monday 24th of May, 2010 a charity organization completed a Western Union Form at
our Location for an instruction to transfer $75,700 to you.
Due to its huge sum we will be handling the western union transfer with a compulsory requirement for you to contact your transfer administrator.
Your Western Union Administrator contact details are as follows:
Name: James Briggs
Contact Email: james.briggs.westernunion@ksoomers.nl
Please contact your administrator immediately via email or the funds will be returned back to the sender. Please don’t forget to include your Full Name for confirmation purposes.
Yours faithfully,
Peter Vanberg,
Global Co-ordinator.
Western Union Company.
May 31st, 2010 at 6:53 am
I have also fallen in a Western Union Scam. A sales rep advertised himself on the Web using alibaba.com I made an order and he asked me to pay via western union. When I paid for four units of cell phones he told me rules had changed and the minimum order quantiy was increased to 10. When I increased h told me I needed to pay duty because the goods were supposed to be dropped at my doorstep. After paying duty I told an error was made on my order I needed to add more money and All he has been demanding is to pay via western union so that he gets the money the same day I was given a trackking number for Nationwide couriers but upto now I have not received the parcel. I am told its held somewhre and for me to get it I have to add more money I am stuck where can I report this mater because I am still in contact with the person maybe he can be tracked
June 11th, 2010 at 7:56 pm
THIS IS TO EXPOSE AN EBAY SCAMMER. EBAY ID IS keepup2010. REQUESTED PAYMENT VIA WESTERN UNION EXPLAINING HE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH PAYPAL VERIFICATION. THIS GUY PICKED UP THE MONEY WITHOUT MTCN OR TEST QUESTION INFORMATION. BELOW ARE HIS DETAILS
LORISMEL MENDEZMATOS
8328 SPRING DESERT PL
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91730
909-244-9792
lorismel26@yahoo.com
lorismel@AOL.COM
June 17th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
Hello, I have also had a run in with this ebay scammer who’s ID is keepup2010 whom sold me an item then emailed me less than an hour latter requesting that we try to complete this transaction with another form of payment. He informed me that his paypal account had been frozen and that he would not be able to use his funds for more than 21 days and suggested we use another method of payment,ie Personal check,bank check,electronic transfer ect. The more I questioned him about a way to work this transaction out the less I have heard from him. I suspected that there might have been something not quite right when I received an email from this ebay seller KEEPUP2010 requesting funds that I emmediately decided not to send this guy money. Also on my paypal account the name of James Purnell whom this guy claims is a room mate,is the person whom my payment thru paypal was credited to. Is this an ALIAS? Could be.Thats why I am here,I have tracked this guys feedback from ebay as well done a web search and that led me to this site.
More information:
User Id: keepup2010
Lorismel Mendezmatos
8328 Spring Desert Pl.
Rancho Cucamonga, Ca. 91730
email:lorismel26@yahoo.com (I have seen this one,but not the other one)
Paypal:
Payment To: James Purnell
Sellers Id: KEEPUP2010
email:JPRANDB@yahoo.com
There is something strange going on here,and not even paypal and/or ebay have caught onto it yet. Two different names,two different emails same user Id. (BEWARE).
June 23rd, 2010 at 12:41 pm
PLEASE BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR THIS EBAY SCAMMER. HE SCAMMED ME VIA WESTERN UNION. ANY WAYS TO GET HIM WILL BE APPRECIATED. BELOW IS HIS INFO. AND HOW HE SCAMMED ME
NAME : LORISMEL MENDEZMATOS (Dj Mendez)
ADDRESS: 8328 SPRING DESERT PL
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91730
Phone: 909-244-9792 (disconnected after received money)
951-271-1591
Email address:
lorismel26@yahoo.com
Lorismel@aol.com
djmendez84@yahoo.com
Ebay id: keepup2010
Driver license number is D7708513
Subject: Re: has sent a question about item #150453463421,
ending on Jun-16-10 02:59:37 PDT – Numark NS7 Serato Itch Controller & FlightCase Received:Jun-10-10 From:keepup2010Expires:Jun-10-11To:ynash11ItemId:150453463421
Dear keepup2010,
Hi… this is really interesting. I can understand the ish with your paypal account. but you wouldnt even accept credit card too. so basically you want a check sent to you first, then it clears and before you ship out? clearly this is against ebay policy. I am a serious buy but please come up with a little bit secured payment plan for both of us! I am not in disbelief that this is a genuine sale but c’mon its lots of money we talking about here you know. thanks for your understanding.
- ME
Dear ME,
come over and pick it up or sent someone you know who lives close to me, it is the only way we can do this other than a check
- keepup2010
From: ME
To: keepup2010
Subject: Re: ynash11 has sent a question about item #150453463421, ending on Jun-16-10 02:59:37 PDT – Numark NS7 Serato Itch Controller & FlightCase
Sent Date: Jun-10-10 13:19:48 PDT
Dear keepup2010,
lol..you must be kidding me.I reside in MD. well….well…well… you need to understand where am coming from buddy, been burnt a few times with similar offer. BUT i still believe in your business.
So tell me why you selling off this item and beside it only takes few days to be verified by paypal. can I have a call back number? sorry for so many question..this is the result of cash down but taking caution
- ME
June 23rd, 2010 at 12:42 pm
From: ME
To: keepup2010
Subject: Re: ynash11 has sent a question about item #150453463421, ending on Jun-16-10 02:59:37 PDT – Numark NS7 Serato Itch Controller & FlightCase
Sent Date: Jun-10-10 13:19:48 PDT
Dear keepup2010,
lol..you must be kidding me.I reside in M. well….well…well… you need to understand where am coming from buddy, been burnt a few times with similar offer. BUT i still believe in your business.
So tell me why you selling off this item and beside it only takes few days to be verified by paypal. can I have a call back number? sorry for so many question..this is the result of cash down but taking caution
- ME
Dear ME,
Of course, here is my number, 909-244-9792 I can explain to you whats going on with my paypal account
- keepup2010
*** I called this scam artist and we spoke for over 30mins. He explained why is account is been verified by paypal. He said he received over $1000 for an item and paypal put a hold on his account because it wasn’t verified before the transaction. I asked him detailed question about the item. He had a full knowledge of the item.
From: ME
To: keepup2010
Subject: Re: ynash11 has sent a question about item #150453463421, ending on Jun-16-10 02:59:37 PDT – Numark NS7 Serato Itch Controller & FlightCase
Sent Date: Jun-10-10 13:42:08 PDT
Dear keepup2010,
Aww…that was a good conversation. thanks for the time. please send different pictures to exxxx@yahoo.com
please also send the payment information.. your full name, address and all those good stuffs…
once i am confident..I will update you and send payment!
- ME
From: ME
To: keepup2010
Subject: Re: ynash11 has sent a question about item #150453463421, ending on Jun-16-10 02:59:37 PDT – Numark NS7 Serato Itch Controller & FlightCase
Sent Date: Jun-10-10 14:02:20 PDT
Dear keepup2010,
Yes I did, I will get the cashier check tomorrow and post it to you. Once that is done I will notify you. I am doing this based on TRUST buddy. like you said, no one will want to jeopardize their life for less than a $1000 bucks.
Should I go ahead and buy it now on Ebay? please confirm the infomation below:
LORISMEL MENDEZMATOS
8328 SPRING DESERT PL
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91730
- ME
****He convinced me to buy the item now that over 92 people were watching the item and I should pay via western union for him to ship it next day. I did a background check on his name and address, even used google earth to view what the apartment or house look like, ran a check on his phone number..was just trying to be sure if this wasn’t a scam.
June 24th, 2010 at 7:22 pm
PLEASE BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR THIS EBAY SCAMMER. HE SCAMMED ME VIA WESTERN UNION. ANY WAYS TO GET HIM WILL BE APPRECIATED. BELOW IS HIS INFO.
NAME : LORISMEL MENDEZMATOS (Dj Mendez)
ADDRESS: 8328 SPRING DESERT PL
RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91730
Phone: 909-244-9792 (disconnected after received money)
951-271-1591
Email address:
lorismel26@yahoo.com
Lorismel@aol.com
djmendez84@yahoo.com
Ebay id: keepup2010
Driver license number is D7708513
June 30th, 2010 at 2:01 am
How can you people fall for this????
July 11th, 2010 at 10:19 am
My friend booked a holiday in the uk and her relative transfered quite a bit of money through western union, two weeks prior her travel date, for my friend to pick up when she arrived in the UK. 20 minutes after the money had been sent my friend looked on their web to check the status and the money wasn’t there – the MTCN was non-existent!!! She called the branch at which the transfer had been made and they told her not to worry as the money is there it’s just there’s some error or something, so my friend forgot about it for a couple of weeks – untill her travel date that is…and the money was gone. She called them and they sent her a letter stating the money was picked up the same day as the transfer in the UK and the correct ID and MTCN were presented…She still traveled to the UK in hope to collect the money in person thinking maybe there was some misunderstanding and in the UK it’ll all be clear. Yeah right, unless there are theives working within the Western Union I can’t see how this is possible. We’ve been contacting them again and again trying to establish where exactly the money was collected (for the police) and they would’n give this info to us. I find they’ve been less than helpfull. I wonder how much money they are theiveng every day and then say they can’t do anything about it cause it’s your own fault for sending it through them in the first place. Do not use their service it’s not reliable even sending it to a person u know.
July 25th, 2010 at 10:25 am
oops, correction to “Borie Kojo”…fake name is Brodie Kojo
August 10th, 2010 at 4:21 pm
this guy tried to scam me!! this is an email from him…
My lawyer and i have decided to carry out a simple test on financial ability to pay for my rent before coming for viewing. I would not ask you to send your bank statement. I’ve been fooled so many times and i will not let that happen to me again. I’ve been fooled by several tenant telling me to come from New York to show them my property but when i got there for the viewing, they will never show up and when i called there phone they will keep on banging the phone on me so it has been a very sad and disappointing occasion for me and i waste a lot of money also for transport when coming for the viewing, so i don’t want that to happen to me anymore.
At least 2 month rent and security deposit which is $500 which is refundable after your 1 month stay in my flat, would be required from you to transfer through Western union money transfer agency. You can make the transfer with your name as a sender name and your partner or friend in PA premises as a receiver.
Once you have done this, scan the receipt to me and if you do not have scanner, you may write out the details on the receipt as i will send it to my lawyer to verify if it’s truly genuine and available in your friend’s custody, after verification, then we can proceed for the viewing and you can as well tell your friend or partner to pick up the money and also, i will refund back to you the cost of transfer when we meet.
Please let me know which condo (city) are you interested in because i have 2 condos for rent and i wouldn’t like to make a confusion.
In case you want it, let me know so we can arrange the transaction.
Thank You,
John