Craigslist Scam – Craigslist Fraud

Unless you’ve been living in a cave for the last couple of years, you’re probably familiar with It’s the website that has revolutionized placing classified ads, finding jobs, houses, dates, anything you could possibly want you can generally find on Craigslist. While this free market is an amazing resource for the average user, it’s also the perfect opportunity for affiliate marketers to completely disregard the rules and abuse the system to participate in unethical marketing practices. Affiliate marketing in itself is a thriving and very legitimate business for those marketers who use ethical methods to promote their products and offers. Affiliate marketing is essentially promoting an online product or service in order to earn commissions by referring customers or leads to other businesses.

Below are a few examples of some of the more common marketing scams that you may find on Craigslist.


If there’s an easy sell in this world, it’s the illusion of a potential hot date to a young single male. That’s what makes this underhanded marketing practice so powerful for affiliates. The scam basically works like this. The affiliate goes into the personals section of Craigslist. They place an ad in the singles section pretending to be an attractive young single female. They may post a picture of a cute girl in the ad, and say to reply to the post in order to make contact. The email tied to the account is set up with an auto responder, and when an interested male replies to the ad, they’ll automatically receive an email trying to entice them into signing up for the dating site the marketer is affiliated with. Marketers can get extremely creative here, but some of the more common replies will be something similar to this:

“Hi, thanks for contacting me! I’ve just moved here for school, and I really don’t know anyone in town, so I’m just trying to meet some new people (guys in particular) I’ve been receiving way more replies than I thought I would from this ad, so it’s hard for me to contact each and every one of you. I decided to set up an account on this site (it’s free to sign up!) so that you can find out more about me and see some of my sexier pictures. You should sign up, my profile is JennyXOXO, come find me and send me a picture of yourself! I hope to hear from you soon!”

Now, why is this underhanded marketing, as opposed to just smart marketing? The first victim is the poor unsuspecting guy who thinks he’s going to score a hot date, only to sign up and find out that “JennyXOXO” doesn’t even exist.

In terms of financial damages though, the dating sites are the victims. They are paying the marketer to drive in legitimate leads who are interested in joining their website. If you are a guy, and you’re tricked into signing up for a dating site to meet a girl who doesn’t exist, would you remain a loyal member to the dating site? Most likely not. That’s why this type of marketing is damaging. The dating sites are losing money paying for fraudulent leads, which hurts the affiliate marketing business and it’s reputation as a whole.


Craigslist really is a haven for the creative marketer who lacks any moral or business ethics. There are affiliate programs for literally any product that you can think of. A few that come to mind are business opportunities, pay day loans, insurance leads, and mortgage leads. First of all promoting these types of offers on Craigslist goes against the websites terms of use. But secondly, and the more dangerous aspect to consumers, is that in most instances these affiliates don’t have any clue about the quality of the product they’re promoting. An example, say I was an affiliate and I decided to promote a business opportunity program. So I post an ad, something like the example below:

Work From Home Opportunity
We are currently trying to fill 4 work from home positions.
All training is provided. Income potential is performance based.
Our new employees earn $6,000 on average within their first 30 days,
with our top employees currently averaging $40,000 per month.
This is a real opportunity to make REAL money.

When an interested prospect replies to the post, they’ll receive an email or a link to a website with a high pressure sales pitch on why they need to take advantage of the work at home opportunity. So what’s wrong with this picture? First of all, the affiliate most likely has no clue what the opportunity actually is. These business opportunities are normally MLM marketing companies or in many cases an outright scam to separate people from their money. Second, the affiliate has no idea how much money, if any, that people can make with these specific programs. So making false promises of $6,000-$40,000 per month is just a blatant lie. Fraudulent marketing at it’s finest. There are too many variations of these deceptive marketing practices to cover in a single article. Here are some tips that you can use to protect yourself though:

  • Always look for the hidden motive. Generally speaking, if they are taking you to an outside website offering a product for sale, they have a hidden agenda.
  • Follow the advice that Craigslist offers. Deal locally. Avoid scams.


Craigslist is constantly refining itself and putting systems in place to prevent this kind of marketing from happening. The deceptive marketers are always a step ahead of the system. They will go to great lengths in order to post multiple ads across multiple categories and cities, trick unsuspecting consumers, and do whatever they can to put as much money as possible in their own pockets, with complete disregard for the people they deceive. The best defense against this is to do your part as a member of the Craigslist community. Flag suspicious ads. Community based moderation means that you are responsible for keeping Craigslist spam and scam free. If everyone does their part, we can avoid having Craigslist become a wasteland of spam and fraudulent marketing.

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  2. Wow! Thanks Trianna!

    I knew this was too good to be true.
    I was supposed to receive the money order today and go cash it. Thank God I decided to look around the internet before doing it. I could smell the damn scam.


  3. Someone is posing as [email protected] and advertising a house for rent in Tarentum, PA

    Two persons have reported this issue to me and almost sent the money. The first person forwarded to me 10 or so email messages back and forth with the con and both individuals almost sent personal information and $1200 via international money order to secure the rental without having first seen the property.

    I don’t know why but when I search I don’t find the same ad to which they refer. According to the first person, it was posted about 11/24/2009 and possibly is being taken down regularly when they get an individual interested. The second person did provide their social security number.

    How can I get craigslist to 1.) ban this email address and 2.) require proper ownership identification prior to posting property ads?

  4. SCAM Christopher Scott Evans says he needs assistant sends fake cashiers check has you deposit then his bounce and he is gone under a new name doing it to the next assistant.

  5. I have had many problems with Craigs List. My first time using the site was when I was looking for a job. I applied for many of the ads. But the only replies I would get back were emails telling me to click on a link and get a credit check and or a background check and the email them the result. I knew that something was not write here. I then looked up Job Scams on Craigs List in google and found out a lot of information. I them stopped applying for jobs on craigslist. I then found a listing for a personal assistant and it looked pretty promising so I fell for it. I responded to the ad. Come to find out after emailing back and forth a few times it was a scam too. I decided to write a blog about this and give people awareness of this problem. Here is the link to my blog if you would like to read more about my story. Some of them are kind of funny.
    I know that Craigs List cannot totally control spam and scams but I think that they can do a lot more than they are doing now.

  6. Yeah I just posted in the personals on craigslist and got lots of emails from very attractive girls, with very sexual explicit pictures, saying that they are afraid of all of the wackos online, and that the only way to continue contacting them was to sign-up on some dating website. But it didn’t make sense that they were afraid of all of the strange people online, but yet they were sending nude pics of “themselves” to a total stranger.

  7. There is a listing being posted on different state craiglist for the following item — 2008 Honda Gold Wing 1800 GOLD WING TRIKE LEHMAN CONVERSION – $4200
    From: [email protected]
    Matthew Hartley

    this is a fake. It does exist on E-Bay and I have spoke with the owner and someone is using the information he has posted and scamming people to send shipping fees and the bike is yours. Please beware

  8. I was contacted by a man of the name Martin Beavers after sending a resume as a personal assistant. I was very skeptical as this offer seems too good to be true: Below is a string of e-mails we have sent to one another. My intention was to have the bank research the check before staring any “assignments” But after doing my own resaerch I am sure this is indeed a scam

    Re: personal assistant‏
    From: Martin Beavers ([email protected])
    Sent: Tue 7/27/10 8:21 AM
    To: LAUREN TRIPLETT ([email protected])

    Dear Jessica,

    Thanks for your response and hope to hear back from me on Wednesday, July 28th 2010.

    Martin Beavers

    On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:29 AM, LAUREN TRIPLETT wrote:

    Hello Martin,

    I am happy to accept the position as your personal assistant. Most of the business I do is via e-mail so that is usually the best way to reach me. I will notify you as soon as I recieve my first check/package. There is a UPS store less than 5 minutes from my house. On saturday I am volunteering at the zoo until 5pm, other than that my schedule is open to get as much done for you as possible. Please dont hesitate to e-mail or call me if you need to get ahold of me.

    Thanks again,
    Jessica “Lauren” Triplett

    PS- I go by my middle name -Lauren, but my bank account and all business I conduct is under my full name. Hope to hear from you soon

    Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:06:50 -0700

    Subject: Re: personal assistant
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]

    Dear Jessica,

    Thanks for your response. After review of your details, I am glad to inform you that your application has been approved and I have accepted you as my personal assistant. Your official start date is Wednesday, July 28th 2010. One of my clients will send you a payment of $2950 between Wednesday, July 28th 2010 and Friday, July 30th 2010. I will keep you posted as soon as the payment is sent to you. As soon as you receive the payment, Take it to the bank and cash it. Deduct $300 for your first week payment and send the balance of $2650 to the Electronic store am purchasing some electronics from through Western Union Money Transfer . I will email you the information needed to send the money to the electronic store as soon as the payment is sent to you.

    Accept my congratulations and please confirm to let me know that this email has been received.
    Martin Beavers
    Tel: +447565179692

    On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 9:06 PM, LAUREN TRIPLETT wrote:

    Your Full Name: Jessica Lauren Triplett
    Your Full Address:14272 N. Gil Balcome Ln, Surprise Az, 85379
    Your Cell phone number:

    Your Home phone number: same as above
    Present Occupation: Petsitter, dog trainer, Passion Parties sales rep and Mom/wife. Prior to moving to Arizona, I was a Veterinary technician and receptionist at a very busy 4 doctor hospital. I also volunteer at Wildlife World Zoo on saturdays training to be an assistant zookeeper.

    Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 08:20:28 -0700
    Subject: Re: personal assistant
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]


    Thanks for your response. My name is Martin Beavers. I live in US but presently in London on a business trip and I need a part time personal assistant urgently to run my errands until I return back to the US by fourth week in October. I own an electronics and clothing store in London, United Kingdom. Here below is the job description.

    1. You will run errands for three times a week and two hours each day.
    2. You will do my business shopping.
    3. You will receive my packages which will be shipped to the nearest UPS office to you. You will go to the UPS office and pick up the packages. The content of the packages are electronics, clothes, my business and personal letters. You will open the packages and confirm the contents for record purpose.
    4. You will ship out some of the packages where I want them to be shipped to. (You don’t have to pay for the shipment. All expenses and taxes will be covered by me)
    5. You will receive payments from my clients on my behalf which will be written payable to your name so you can cash them at your bank. The payments will be in either check or money order. The payments will be for the services you will be rendering and to do my business shopping.

    Job Requirement
    1. You must have good communicatin skill.
    2. You must be efficient, reliable, responsible and trustworthy.
    3. You mush be able to perform your tasks effectively
    4. You should be able to work 3 times per week and 2 hours each day.

    Payment and Work Duration
    The Job will last for three months. I want to open another electronics and clothing store in the US when I return and If there is need to extend your services, an ammedment would be made to your wages and you will be notified accordingly. I will meet you in person by October when I return back to the US. I am willing to pay $300 per week. Your weekly payment will be deducted from the payments sent to you by my clients.

    I need the service of a personal assistant because I am always out of town for business trips. The lists and pictures of what to shop will be sent to you via email when am ready. No heavy packages are involved! The shopping will be done at any nearest stores to you. You will be shopping for Electronics and clothes. My personal UPS account number will be provided for shipping. I will provide clear set of instructions for each task to be done and funds to cover them.

    If interested, Please confirm the following details:

    Your Full Name:
    Your Full Address with apt # (Not P.O.Box)
    Your Cell phone number
    Your Home phone number
    Present Occupation:

    Hope to hear from you soon.

    Martin Beavers
    Tel: +447565179692

    On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:52 PM, LAUREN TRIPLETT wrote:

    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Personal assistant
    Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:51:47 -0700

    Hello there!

    My name is Lauren and I am inquiring about your admin clerk/ personal assistant ad. I Have many years of reception experience in a very busy Veterinary Hospital. My duties were answering phones, taking messages, scheduling appointments for 4 different doctors,using various computer systems, filing, file prep, speaking with clients, nightly deposit, assisted in planning for fundraising events and much more. Refrences available

    Lauren Triplett

  9. Paper trail Paralegal Western union scam Watch out!

    Watch out they only take western union or cash gram. They dont have an office location(only PO BOX) and there is alot of information on the internet how she has ripped people off. She is very rude and un professional

    Only trust someone who has an office location, takes credit cards (so you fight opposed to the claim incase she rips you off)

    Also she keeps showing her bbb rating which is BS cause she is not bbb accredited, she is uncredited which means not all the complaints are shown

    NEVER WIRE FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION, MONEYGRAM or any other wire service – anyone who asks you to do so is a scammer.

  10. I use CRAIGSPAL

    Been finding and FLAGGING many scammers.

    It’s us versus them (scamers), If everyone flags his own “niche” of search that daily browse , craigslist will be CLEAN!!! of spammers and scammers. Craigslist removes post flagged from multiple IP addresses, if we have everyone search narrow to his own niche and flag spam posts, we get clean result.

    I recommend this application to all my friends, and we keep our craigslist niche clean!

    just 2 cents…..

  11. I think craigslist is part of a scam operation, they will be sued for not making people running adds on there web sites prove that there adds are legit.I was scammed for 5000.00 from an add ran on there site and i reported to them that this persons was a running a scam, the same add in multiple cities and states with multiple listings and they simply did not care, the add is still running in numerous craigslist listing and these thiefs are getting rich from it.I turned it over to the FBI and they are investagating this along with investigating craigslist for failure to remove a fraudulent add after being advised. My attorney is in the process of a law suit.

  12. Hi. Someone wanted to make me a scam
    I saw an advertisement in Facebook saying: Menstrual Pain Clinical Study
    Said that gave to you $500 by study
    I sent my information and the day after I got a mail from Kevin O’Dell [email protected]
    The mail said:
    Dear Survey Applicant

    We regret to inform you that the study you applied for filled up faster than we anticipated. However, we have another study which will be holding next week that pays $300. Below is more information on the survey and how you can opt in.

    Our company will be conducting surveys on Western Union outlets to help measure and improve the services they provide their customers. The survey will require that you visit a Western Union outlet in your area to patronize the services they render as a customer, you will thereafter give us feed back on your experience by filling out a simple questionnaire.

    The survey takes a maximum of 2hrs to complete and you will be paid $300 for every evaluation completed, If you are interested in participating in this study, please send us a reply with your information in the following order ASAP to take your spot.

    Full Name
    Mailing Address
    Phone Number
    Email address
    Current occupation

    We’ll get back to you after receiving this information to confirm your participation in the survey. Surveys fill up fast and participation is on a first come first serve basis.

    Thank you

    Your faithfully,
    Kevin O’Dell
    HC Studies Inc.

    Unfortunately I sent it

    later I received another e-mail from the same guy

    Good Morning,
    This is to confirm you have been selected as 1 of our 5 Western Union Survey/Evaluation agent in your area.
    Funds for the survey has just being released by our sponsor and will be delivered to you in 1-2 business days.
    The survey will be held on Monday (12/20/2010).

    We need you to confirm the phone number you gave us by sending us the code we will be sending to you shortly.
    Further instructions on how to go about conducting the survey will sent to you upon delivery of survey funds.
    Kindly acknowledge receipt of this email to show your acceptance and willingness to carry out the survey for the
    company. Thank you.

    Kevin O’Dell
    Market Research Analyst
    HC Studies Inc.

    Finally, they sent me a check to my home via UPS. The check was for
    $2,650 dollars. The survey had to pay $300. What would happen to the remaining 2350?

    With this question I looked on the Internet. Thanks to the Internet I learned that is a common scam. You must to deposit the check into your account, send the “remaining” money through Wester Union.
    The check is fake, Unfortunately many people know it when is too late.

    Other information that might interest you, the check comes in the name of Memorial Healthcare System.
    The envelope is sent by Kevin O’Dell HC Studies INC.
    1594 E LAKE WOODLANDS PKWY OLDSMAR FL 34677-1902 (address corresponding to a home for sale)


    THANKS GOD I KNOW IT BEFORE. I don’t have a job, could be my first Christmas in USA with a bad memory.

  13. I replied to the same ‘menstrual cramp survey’ on facebook and was sent the same email as the girl above from Kevin Odell. I rec’d the check so I won’t be cashing it. What happens? I guess the bank gives you the money? and then the check doesn’t clear and the person in africa (who we are supposed to send the money to via western union then keep a portion for ourselves)receives cash and we owe the bank?

  14. Nelly, I also signed up for the same menstrual pain study. I receieved similiar emails from this “Kevin O’Dell”. I did not wire any money for him which is good since I had repay the bank for the check they cashed for me. I’ve been told by Memorial Healthcare System that some people have already wired large amounts of cash to Africa before their checks came back bad. Thanks for warning people about this. I just wanted to comment here to back up your story with mine.

  15. I got the scam check from Kevin O’Dell today…I was sent this because I signed up to do a Western Union customer survey..I have not yet been given any email instructions, etc, but after reading the above posts, I expect them soon.I had no clue what the money was all about until I found this site..My check was drawn on Bank Of America, from a company called Covenant Transport in Chattanooga…It came by USPS, in an Express Mail envelope, although I don’t know if that is also fake…My chcek is for $2, 6500.00 also..and it looks very real!!!!!!!! I plan to call the company on the check to warn them about this scam, and then take the fraudulent check to Bank of America with the rest of the info..This is mail fraud which is a federal offense, but it seems as if no one really cares about it at all…I am wondering how many people getn tricked into cashing the check..It’s sad that peoope do this..

  16. Hello All,
    So I have received my scam check from Kevin O’dell as well.n I was really hoping something like this was legitimate. I was in route to cash this check ( at a Western Union) but something stopped me and told me to double check this and I did and I came across several sites with his name and SCAM trailed behind it. I wasn’t going to deposit the money into my bank account (because I don’t have one.) I was hoping to cash it at a western union. I guess he became more clever and used an address in the US for me to send the money too. Its funny reading everyone’s response because the emails you posted are the same exact emails I received word for word. I want everyone to knopw its a scam don’t believe don’t fall for it and thank you guys for warning by posting your stories. !!!!! I highly appreciate you. My thing is he spent 18 dollars to have the envelope shipped to my address who is sending out this stuff and why isn’t craigslist taking a better consideration into protecting their site from thieves, murders,and crooks. What are the solutions to get craigslist to take fraud and victimizing more serious ?

  17. I was targeted for this scam
    Kevin O’Dell
    Market Research Analyst
    HC Studies Inc.

    I signed up for focus groups from craigslist, and was told I was not eligible,and they sent me the western union job. When I get the envelope I am going right to the police and filing a complaint this is sickening I will also be calling WMUR news 9 people need to be made aware!

  18. I have used craigslist for over a year now trying to land a job, (ANY JOB) I have not had one legit response to any of my replies. I have only had auto responders for more ads and offers or NOTHING in return, not even a NOT HIRING…..

    I started using the service and have not received one bad reply yet. These guys investigate the posting for me before I submit my personal information and resume. The guys at have made this job hunting so much safer and easier. Now I do not waist my time replying to scam postings.

    Everyone should at least check them out. Would you stand on the street corner and hand out your resume to a stranger? NO? then why would you do it on craigslist?

  19. Please let me know if this is a scam.

    Dear Craigslist Poster,

    This is Craig Newmark. I’m the founder of Craigslist. We have been working with Apple Inc on new promotional giveaways. Basically we are giving away free iPads and other Apple products to randomly picked Craigslist posters. You have been picked as our winner for today. Your Craigslist post id came up in our random pick. You have won a free iPad!!! Please visit our promotional page here and follow the directions to get your free iPad. This is not a scam. After following the directions on our promotional page we will ship you an iPad within 3-4 business days.

    Congratulations on winning an Apple iPad (currently valued at $829). If you have any concerns or questions you can contact me by replying to this email. Before contacting me I recommend that you visit our promo page here and sign up for your free iPad so we can reserver one for you.

    Thank you for posting on Craigslist,

    Craig Newmark
    Founder, Craigslist Inc.


    Simons Communications Inc, 1412 S Center St, Redlands, CA 92373, United States
    You may unsubscribe or change your contact details at any time.

  20. I participate in a lot of paid focus groups/studies so when this happened to me this morning, I knew something was up. I received similar emails as you all did. Mine however came from Stephen Matthews ([email protected]) who’s first email said he was with HC Studies Inc. and following emails said EMR Inc. at the bottom. I received a check for $2,650.00 made out to me via FedEx at 7:00am today (02/10/11) but the check was made out from Sempra Energy Solutions LLC 101 Ash St San Diego, CA 92101 and their JPMorgan Chase Bank. The check was FedEx’d to me from Paul Simons SHP 1600 Wilshire Blvd Los Angeles, CA 90017. I’ve been on the phone a little bit this morning trying to speak with someone at Sempra to either verify the validity of this marketing attempt (which I now know and suspected all along was a scam anyway) and have left a message with someone. Hopefully they get back to me so I can notify them that their company name is being utilized by these scammers to do people harm.

    The address I was to Western Union the remaining money to was

    Andrianta Pramono
    200 Santa Monica Pier
    Santa Monica, CA 90401

    In the meantime I’ll be responding to “Stephen Matthews” email telling him to kindly fuck off.

    And just some more tags to help people find this site: EMR Marketing,, [email protected], Stephen Matthews, HC Studies Inc, Sempra Energy Solutions LLC, Andrianta Pramono

  21. Same here, scammed by a fellow called Eric Anderson. Darn, I don’t understand how people with this level of intelligence (?) find nothing better to do with their days but to try to scam people into useless deals… poor souls (in a way)…
    His address was:
    [email protected]
    Hoping you avoid the hoax. I didn’t loose money (his e-mail address got cancelled).
    The reason I thought things were weird was because of his writing – he would ask how my family is doing, he would be willing to move ahead and buy everything as is without asking a single question, he would reply to the wrong e-mail with the wrong title – but still would write down that he “wants” to buy it all and he knows he had things wrong but still wants to go ahead (a bit of a mess in his conversation).
    Anyway – wishing all of you not to waste too much time on him… if he writes to me again (if I hear from him even through a different address) I will try to ship his information to the police or somewhere… poor guy though, wonder what makes people want to scam others like that… honesty is more scarce than most think…
    All the best,

  22. PS: Assume Eric will change his name but not his “mood”… here is the kind of stuff he wrote for reference…


    I’m satisfied with the condition of the bike….
    I will be paying you through PayPal ( or bank to bank transfer which is a fast, safe and reliable method of payment..
    And i will take care of all Shipment Preparations for the bike to my home in England,The shipping company will be the one to handle and sign the following on my behalf:bike deregistration at the Police, Control of Originality and the sale of contract will be accessed by the shipping company …i think i can trust you with is due to our conversation….i will be paying your through bank transfer or paypal due to the distance….i have access to my paypal and bank account so i can easily make the transfer to your account after receiving your bank info or paypal email…also send me your address so that the shipping company will be able to calculate the total amount for the pick up

    So i will be paying directly into your bank account without any delay. Get back to me with the details below to make the transfer….or get back to me with your paypal i.d incase you dont have bank details

    Account Holder Name;
    Account Number;
    Bank Name:
    Swift Code:
    Total amount:
    So once i receive the bank details to make the transfer i will go ahead and make the payment….
    Best regards
    Mr Eric

    Thanks for the response on the bike but my work schedule is keeping
    me too busy…I would have loved to come in person to have a look and
    maybe test drive it but my work is preventing me to…due to the
    nature of my work I won’t be able to…I’m a oceanographer,I’m at sea
    right now,I’m buying this as a gift for my son in England as a
    surprise gift because his birthday is coming up soon and I will like
    to surprise him am ready to pay the price..
    i like the bike, please when last do you change the oil and service
    the bike?
    and how many years have you been using the bike?
    what is the condition of the bike
    am ready to purchase.
    please get back to me soonest so that payment and pick up can be
    arrange immediately…
    Eric Anderson

  23. PPS: Eric Anderson’s e-mail address was disable apparently (it does not connect anymore). Expect his material to come from a different e-mail address (and/or name altogether)

  24. PPPS: Or maybe not! I wrote to Eric Anderson’s e-mail address from a different location and this time I did NOT get an error message. This means he probably got the information he wanted from me (bank account number, etc) and now blocked my e-mail address with an error message which says “Eric’s e-mail address is not valid anymore”, but it’s probably up and running again. Proof is I sent a message to his address from a different location (one of my other e-mail addresses) and I did not get an error message… darn…

  25. My man and I were scammed on craigslist. He buys, sells, and trades in antique bottles. We posted them and were slammed with responses and “checks”. Neither of us had a bank account so we had his father cash appx. 2500.00 worth through his account. Needless to say, his dad is very upset with us. There has been at least a hundred thousand worth sent to us since then. We dont know how we will ever pay back his dad.


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